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Tuesday, March 23, 2004

And there was much rejoicing whining...

Joshua Claybourn noted the striking resemblance of the late Hamas "spiritual leader" Sheikh Yassin to Saruman. This caused a couple of bloggers to get their shorts in a bunch. They accused Josh of "rejoicing" over this terrorist's death. More disturbingly, they seem to be engaging in moral equivalency, saying that the Israelis taking out a terrorist is just as bad as Palestinians blowing up innocent people in cafes and buses. I just hope neither one of those bloggers ever reads this post over at Little Tiny Lies...they might faint!

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>>Christians with their head up their... from Vessel of Honour
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Comments

LoL Susan.
I don't think the discussion at connextion is quite that extreme and morally bankrupt. Maybe suggesting to Joshua Claybourn his joke was in poor taste just isn't done!
Goodness. We can't have bloggers 'fainting' all over now, can we?;^)
Blog on!

Posted on March 23, 2004 at 3:58 PM

As Robert (http://robert.williamsonline.us) quoted aptly:

Proverbs 11:10 When it goes well with the righteous, the city rejoices, And when the wicked perish, there is joyful shouting.

Posted on March 23, 2004 at 6:22 PM

Murder is never right!
I have posted more on my blog

Posted on March 24, 2004 at 4:23 PM

Adrian,

What you seem to be overlooking is that Israel is at war. They are continuously being attacked from within. They killed one of those responsible for plotting the deaths of many innocent people. That's why I don't see this as "cold-blooded murder".

Now there are some that will insist that all killing is murder. However, I think this cheapens the meaning of the word "murder". This whole subject makes me think about the Old Testament. God said, "You shall not murder," and then He turned around and told the Israelites to go to war against their enemies. Was God contradicting Himself?

Posted on March 24, 2004 at 7:50 PM

But Susan, you forget we're supposed to turn the other cheek now. So if the terrorists want to kill us, our families and our pet cats, we have no choice but to let them, otherwise we'll be just like them! :-)

Posted on March 25, 2004 at 12:41 PM

"Shorts in a bunch"! Not hardly! Others have said I was "offended". What I did, in the mildest possible terms, was question the appropriateness of making such a (as it seemed to me) gleeful post about a death which had the potential to spark a major escalation of the violence in Israel.
Here's what i wrote: I can't be persuaded that the death of anyone, even if they are the spiritual leader of terrorists, should be treated as a joke, even if it's a clever one. Call me a killjoy. I just don't think it is a laughing matter. Read it slowly if you're hard of hearing, then tell me how it equates to moral equivalency. I don't get it.

I'd like to thank Mac for the scripture verse but (contrary to popular opinion) I do actually read the Bible from time to time, and even try sometimes to apply it to my life. So if I counter your text with Ezekiel 33:11, where does that leave us?

Posted on March 28, 2004 at 6:09 AM

Richard,

In all honesty, I've had enough of this whole poop storm. I will say a few more things to respond to your comments. I still maintain that Josh's original post wasn't laughing at the terrorist's death -- just his resemblance to Saruman. I've seen much harsher blog posts that did laugh at his death, and I linked to one in my post. Some might find this tasteless, but I have a hard time working up any dismay. As far as I'm concerned, there is one less terrorist in the world plotting the deaths of innocent people in buses and cafes. I'm glad for that.

As far as the assassination sparking an escalation in violence, all I can say is that they will use any excuse to escalate violence. They particularly love to blow people up during peace negotiations. Does this mean that there should be no negotiations?

As for Ezekiel 33:11, yes, we should all hope people turn away from evil. And it's always a bit sad when people are destroyed by their evil and lack of repentance. But this doesn't mean that justice should not be served, and that the innocent should not be defended.

Posted on March 28, 2004 at 4:44 PM



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